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[Wizzard419]

I'll schedule your plastic surgeon consult for next week.

[floridafan]

have you got vegas pro 10?......................for your edits ?

[Gringrinnyghost]

FloridaFan I have Sony Vegas 8, 9, and 10 PRO

[pyrotech]

@Ghost; Tron: legacy in 3D is pretty decent,  but a fair bit is 2D  .  The new Tron 3 is going to be full 3D    Pretty easy to make a decent 3D anaglyph or SBS, use makeme3d on any film you have and produce a SBS mkv file without colour filters. ,  then play using Power DVD 11.   It automatically plays it as an anaglyph if you don't have a 3D screen on the computer.   

Just mess with the depth option when processing to get the best possible effect.  you can also so use DvdFab or wondershare , but I've found I get best results with Makeme3d. 

Unlike you ghost, I'm not a hypocrite, I let me my daughter buy the bits.......as shes a gadget and film freak...    

But I have to say I'm converted to 3D tV Samsung.    But not the inbox 2d to 3d conversion.  Save the film to hd then convert myself, gives much better results.

 

[Gringrinnyghost]

Thanks Pryo Tech, I may have to try that. This Camcorder I am looking at is 1500, and it is BIG! http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&partNumber=HDRTD10#additionalImage1"

[eyore]

There's something in the description which puts me off that one. You have to watch the videos via the camera according to the comments (for 3D).
There's also the fact that 3D isn't editable with it (so you can't really make your own films - only play them as taken - including the idiots who crawl past the camera when you are filming, the ones who grin at you and so on).
For the price, I'd think I'd want something that I could preserve the films on (say to BluRay disc)  rather than have to play back via the camera only. As it only burns in 2D what's the point of it?
I've been there with videocams that now won't plug into any TV they make now so all sorts of adapters required. Even my "new" digital camcorder needed a little searching to find the right cable to connect it to a DVD recorder.
Ah, the beauty of the old VHS-C cassettes. Into the adapter and play them back. How simple it was 

[pixelated]

I like the look of this DIY stereoscopic camera rig:
http://echeng.com/journal/2010/07/19/3d-stereoscopic-video-camera-with-grip/
But it doesn't seem to be meant for handheld shooting; no handgrip on the bottom.  It looks like the interocular distance and the zero parallax plane distance are adjustable though.

But if you can rig this Opteka support/grip to the camera mount, you can do handheld:
http://opteka.com/csx1.aspx

[eyore]

Whilst on the subject of 3D, anyone watch their park videos using the Pulfrich effect?
OK. only effective with certain motion but it is free and can give some cracking results. Splashmountain10's BTM is pretty good.

[pyrotech]

I've done a small batch of samples of 2D to 3D conversions to show what is possible, not used copyrighted material, but kept it Disney by snipping a very short segment of Dolby's Kali river Rapids .

The untitled avi is the original segment,  then there are 3 mp4's with the depth perception altered (done on makeme3d) and finally a conversion using Wondershare for comparison.  No DVDfab conversion as I only had a trial version and its run out.

To see the effect of conversion, run the mp4's in VLC and you can see that its actually a stereoscopic version of the original, with a single frame offset between them.  ie 1-2, 2-3, 3-4, 4-5 etc. become frames 1,2,3 and 4.

Now to see in 3D , use Cyberlink power DVD11 set to 3D, (trial version works) and it will self generate an anaglyph whilst playing.  hopefully you can see the difference that the depth of perception setting has.  also, though I've not done it, you can adjust brightness.    I find a setting of 3% works really well with my TV glasses. 

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QZFZ6UGZ   

If you have the nvidia set up, I'd like to know what they look like on there, Left eye first.

[Gringrinnyghost]

Ok, I have been looking at the tech specs, The Sony HDR min lux is 11 and the SDT-950k is less than 2lux. I am leaning for the 3D camcorder, but i have no idea how it will be filming a Dark Ride.

This is at 9LUX
The Amazing Adventures of Spiderman Version 2

[eyore]

That's the one thing I regret with digital cameras. My original (now broken and beyond repair after I fiddled with it) VHS-C camcorder had a low light capability of 0.5 lux 
That's without any infra red etc as well.
POC videos were great but, of course, analogue and so not as good quality.
I miss it. 

[Gringrinnyghost]

I am most likely gonna let 3D tech develope to one that can provide less than 2lux, so i may just go the non-3d Route....

[eyore]

Yes, it's always sad when they change technology to improve on one aspect and then ruin another.
The new cameras may be superior in picture quality but we do get used to doing certain things and, when something like the light grasp ends up much, much worse than the old steam-driven camera had, there's a feeling of being cheated somehow.
Over the last 20 years, it's amazing how you gain some things and lose others (hence the reason I end up with several generations of things - tape recorders, VHS players, camcorders and so on and each one usually just having one particular facility that you are unwilling to give up).
All very well having the latest TV and then finding you can't plug the rest of your things into it so having to replace them as well 
Believe me, you'll all experience this as you get older!
I'd agree, 2lux is the minimum I would accept for anything and preferably 1 or less.
It's a real downer admitting there is no point in recording a ride that you know will no longer come out and being stuck to "outdoor on a sunny day" shots unless you get a second mortgage and sell the kids to a white slaver.

[dolbyman]

bought a 3d TV yesterday

an LG 47LW6500 .. works with passive 3d glasses .. so I finally have a reason to "borrow" a pair on my next Disney trip 

[eyore]

Funnily enough, I was looking at an LG 3D TV last Sunday. I found the passive glasses quite acceptable and the 3D effect really good as well.
For some reason the ones plugged into the TV do my vision no good at all.
The promo film they were showing included some shots of a jet fighter which, at one point, shot right out of the screen (I actually leaned back). Still a little on the expensive side for us though.
Cheapest here is £650 which isn't that bad but, on the downside, only one pair of glasses. The reviewer says they cost £99 each! 
As a bit of fun, have a look here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/POLARIZED-DISNEY-DIGITAL-CINEMA-GLASSES/dp/B002AQ74RY/ref=sr_1_1?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1317402362&sr=1-1
I wonder where they got them from 
Out of curiosity, if using passive glasses, are you restricted in what you watch or does "one size fit all" for DVDs and TV programs (as long as the TV and glasses match, of course).