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disney4me2001

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DCA Music
« on: January 29, 2009, 07:25:48 AM »

Does anyone have the FULL loop for Paradise Pier?  I have half of it (the one that has "California Girls" and "Surfin' U.S.A."), but I'm looking for the other half that has "California Sun."  Anyone?  Thanks!
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2009, 05:05:31 PM »

Aren't those needle-drop commercially available music?
http://www.mousebits.com/smf/index.php?topic=2810.msg18034#msg18034 will give the titles as listed on magicmusicloops.
As I said there, I don't know if these are the actual releases from the likes of the Beach Boys or not (never been there) but, if they are, they won't be available here as they can still be bought.
If they are not and are made especially for the loop, I would have thought they would have been uploaded if available.
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2009, 05:56:12 PM »

I believe Paradise Pier's BGM is actually puff-organ-ish versions of CA-themed songs, made specifically for the area.
I have a track labeled as being the "complete" Paradise Pier loop that runs 61:31, but it's littered with so much skipping that about 50% of the audio is missing in big chunks. :-\
It was uploaded here in the past but was taken down because the same torrent contained needle-drop material from Sunshine Plaza.
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 10:26:36 PM »

Yes, I noticed that it was here at one time.
Are the needle drop tracks part of the actual loop or just added to a fan-made compilation ?
I had a listen to  a few bits of the loop on another site via a link from Visionsfantastic (very short clip) so I understand the "puff-organish" bit ;D
If it was available and doesn't contain any needle drops, I wonder why it hasn't resurfaced.
Shame horizons doesn't cover DCA.
I did notice that RBs site has them all as "unavailable" (points to them being park music only) and rather comforting to note that he didn't point to the Beach Boy on Amazon. He's slipping ;D
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2009, 12:28:34 AM »

The needle drop things that were in the torrent were from the loop for Sunshine Plaza, the main entrance area, which was packaged in with the Paradise Pier track.
I'd like to see the Paradise Pier track re-uploaded sometime ... but a working version. Dunno if such a thing exists out there. :(
I'd wager a guess that the broken-ness of it is at least part of the reason it's not on here again, although it's equally possible (maybe even more likely) that people have just forgotten about it. :P
I have the "California Girls" track from it (first track in the loop) from a different torrent as a fully working version. It's the only individual track I have though. :(
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2009, 10:38:59 AM »

I have a track labeled as being the "complete" Paradise Pier loop that runs 61:31, but it's littered with so much skipping that about 50% of the audio is missing in big chunks. :-\

That's weird, the entire file plays fine for me in Winamp v5.3.1.

According to this posting, CAScreaminDude says he assembled that loop from what I *think* are source tracks from the Boardwalk loop and the King Triton's Carousel loop.  The loop is not totally accurate because the Carousel version of the tracks differ slightly from the Boardwalk version of the same tracks, as he points out in some other posting that I can't find right now.

If it was available and doesn't contain any needle drops, I wonder why it hasn't resurfaced.

I thought only submarines and cetaceans resurfaced ;D.
Sorry, I still find the jargon amusing <smack>.  Besides, the above statement is incorrect since there are other creatures that also dive into the water.

My induction recording has more bass than that file but that's how it sounded live as well.  I'll need to do a couple of simple edits so the loop starts with the proper track and has the correct length.  Then I'll upload it to a filesharing site.  Which file format would be good - the original WAV, FLAC, or MP3?  What can I say, I like to offer people a choice when possible :D.

BTW, should this topic be moved to a more appropriate forum. such as "Requests" or "The Mouse in the West"?
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2009, 11:13:42 AM »

I'd love to hear this induction recording of the Pier. Some Disney-philes have begun looking at me crazily when I mention that the Pier and Carousel are two separate loops...

I must admit I've always been partial to mp3s. They just make things so much easier...

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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2009, 06:19:54 PM »

That's weird, the entire file plays fine for me in Winamp v5.3.1.

Shortly after I made my last post in this thread I remembered that this torrent in particular was one that gave me trouble with downloading a number of times, so it's very possible I only got a few pieces of the file from the torrent (albeit enough to have it labeled with the artist/album info, which is usually a sign to me that something's finished downloading).

I'd love to have the fully working version of the file, accurate or not, if you could by any chance get it to me. I just like that sound. ;D Can't wait to hear your recording too. I'm not too biased in terms of the file format, but knowing me it will be MP3 on my computer by the time I'm satisfied with it, so that would save me some time ... :P

Now I'm curious about the variations mentioned in the thread you linked to ... I knew about the Jumpin' Jellyfish one, but I didn't notice anything different around the Zephyr Rockets and haven't been on the Orange Stinger before so I haven't heard those. Gotta check it out if they've got the different versions going when I go in April (the only reason they wouldn't being their ongoing mega-remodel).
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2009, 12:47:21 AM »

And, presumably, it could be uploaded here afterwards?
If the needle drops are not there, that should be OK, No?
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2009, 08:46:15 PM »

...I didn't notice anything different around the Zephyr Rockets...
The Zephyr area has more tremulant sounding organ instrumentation (less band organ, more "rock" pipe organ), tubular bells (as opposed to warm bells or triangle), theremin (as opposed to band organ high register pipes: tibia), synth clari, and a bit of reverbed glock.

Here's a quick example (live): http://www.visionsfantastic.com/CASD/I%20Get%20Around%20(GZ).mp3
and another (live): http://www.visionsfantastic.com/CASD/Happy%20Together%20(GZ).mp3

Both selections, as well as several other live recordings of GZ music, play on VF Radio.

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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2009, 11:34:38 PM »

Neat stuff! :) Makes me want the whole loop now though. :P

I'll definitely be listening for the differences this trip if the music's going. Still hoping that loop from the torrent can be uploaded by someone ...
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2009, 12:19:22 AM »

Hopefully pixilated will be able to do the edit and post it up for us and we'll get it posted here as a torrent.
Nobody took the bait (yes, sorry, pun on that previous joke about oceanic fauna) about it not being allowed so we watch this space ;D
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2009, 05:06:59 AM »

I'm pretty sure the Paradise Pier loop is not needle-drop.  If it is, I want that CD! ;D  I really like the overall sound of the loop and I'm probably not the only one.  I would guess that if the loop was based on existing recordings, the tracks would have been used by someone else besides Disney in some other public area like a fair, carnival, mall, etc. but that doesn't seem to be the case.  It seems to be unique to Disney.  And I could just as easily be dead wrong :D.

Anyway, here's the link to the edited recording of the DCA Paradise Pier Boardwalk BGM loop:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/l0x77x

It's a 320 kbps CBR MP3 file and the total loop length is 1:02:08.768.
The only processing I did was to increase the volume by 2.5 dB.  The noise floor was very good at -41 dB or below so noise reduction was not necessary but there is definitely hiss if you listen through headphones.  This recording has more bass than CAScreaminDude's reconstructed version of the loop so you may want to re-equalize the recording to "brighten" it so it's a better match to the reconstructed loop.  A suggestion for anyone who does process the recording: it would be great if you put a short summary of what you did in the comment section of the MP3 file's header.  That way, there is a log of audio changes to the file.  I already put my +2.5 db level change in the comment.  Thanks!

And of course anyone with upload privileges may make a torrent of this recording.  I think that's it; the 't's have been crossed and the 'i's have been dotted.

EDIT: It seems I'm a pilot that relied only on the cockpit instruments and forgot to look out the window :D.  My recording has a definite hiss in it if you listen to it through headphones.
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2009, 05:44:21 AM »

Awesome! Thanks! :D

I balanced out the treble/bass a bit, and except for the constant underlying hiss (which I guess is near-unavoidable in a recording like this, and to be honest doesn't bug me all that much) it sounds great. Thanks again! :)

EDIT: I've just figured out how to remove some tape hiss in Sony Sound Forge Audio Studio 9, but it comes at the expense of a small bit of treble data (but a very impressively small bit). Working on getting the hiss out here without killing the glockenspiel-type sound too much ...

Does anyone know if there is any file out there, source or recorded, that has the other tracks not included in this version of the loop? I'd still like to hear some of the ones that were in the torrent file and not here, if anyone has them ...
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Re: DCA Music
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2009, 06:29:20 AM »

Oh yeah, *that* hiss :-[.  I never listened to this recording through headphones until now, just through my computer speakers, so I didn't notice it.  I only looked at the level of the hum in the silent gaps between tracks and saw how low it was.  That'll teach me to always do the simple quality check of listening through headphones at least once. ::)  I did a quick test pass through Izotope RX Denoiser [algorithm A (realtime), noise reduction = 12 dB, smoothing = 5] and it seemed to remove the hiss without adding artifacts or munching the treble tones.

EDIT: I can run the whole recording through Izotope and upload that new version to sendspace, leaving the first version in place for those who don't mind the hiss or want to process the recording themselves.
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